‘Will They Next Kill
Senators?’
Q & A with Sen. Joker Arroyo on civil liberties, the
VAT rate hike, and Philippine governance after May 2004
“They now kill congressmen, like Henry
Lanot. Will they next kill senators?” Sen. Joker Arroyo,
chairman of the Senate Committee on Human Rights and vice chairman of
the Committee on Ways and Means, said this in an interview with
Bulatlat. The interview tackled civil liberties, the recent
passage of the Senate value-added tax (VAT) increase bill, and the
state of Philippine governance after the 2004 election.
BY ALEXANDER MARTIN
REMOLLINO
Bulatlat
Sen. Joker Arroyo
Photo by Alexander
Martin Remollino |
“They now kill
congressmen, like Henry Lanot. Will they next kill senators?”
Sen. Joker Arroyo,
chairman of the Senate Committee on Human Rights and vice chairman of the
Committee on Ways and Means, said this in an interview with Bulatlat.
He was referring to former Pasig City Rep. Henry Lanot, who was gunned
down April 13 while having dessert in a restaurant in Mandaluyong City.
The interview tackled
civil liberties, the recent passage of the Senate value-added tax (VAT)
increase bill, and the state of Philippine governance after the 2004
election. Arroyo was interviewed April 14 after a roundtable discussion on
“The State of Governance After the May 2004 Elections” at the Sulo Hotel
in Quezon City.
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The roundtable
discussion was organized by the Center for People Empowerment in
Governance (CenPEG) in cooperation with the Advocacy Desk of Oxfam-United
Kingdom. Among the discussants were: Bp. Deogracias Iñiguez of the Diocese
of Kalookan, who is also a co-chairman of the Ecumenical Bishops Forum (EBF);
Meneleo Carlos, chairman of the Federation of Philippine Industries (FPI);
lawyer Melvin Encanto of Transparency International; Rey Hulog, executive
director of the Kapisanan ng mga Brodkaster sa Pilipinas (KBP or
Philippine Broadcasters Association); and Leonard de Vera, incoming
president of the Integrated Bar of the Philippines (IBP).
Arroyo attained fame
during martial law as a human rights lawyer who took on the Marcos
dictatorship. After the 1986 People Power uprising, he served as executive
secretary under the Aquino government.
He has acquired a
reputation for fearlessness in denouncing the excesses of those in power,
no matter if he is part of the political party to which they belong.
During his talk at
the April 14 roundtable discussion, he tackled the post-May 2004 state of
Philippine governance mostly in broad strokes. He said that giving a
holistic picture of the issue “is an impossibility,” considering the size
of the government.
Even so, his speech
did contain some edges.
“The misgovernment of
the past year is so well known to all the participants that for me to
restate the obvious would be to beat a dead horse, it is so self-evident,”
he said.
The participants in
the roundtable discussion – coming from the business and labor sectors,
the academe, non-government organizations, and progressive party-list
groups – reached a consensus that indeed, as Arroyo said, there has been
misgovernment after the 2004 presidential election.
“It would be like the
group of intellectuals who announced in a joint statement that the country
has a fiscal crisis, shouting ‘eureka’ as if we did not already know it.”
He was referring to a group of 11 economists from the University of the
Philippines
– “UP 11.”
On the prospects of
poverty alleviation, Arroyo had this to say:
“The cure for poverty
is neither income redistribution nor the acquisition of political power.
There is no longer a link between political empowerment and individual
economic advancement.
“But the overhang of
the budgetary deficit, where one-third of the national budget is allocated
for debt service, does not allow much room for promise in
government-sponsored poverty alleviation.”
Below are excerpts
from the interview:
What can you say
about the series of killings of journalists at present and its
implications on civil liberties?
It’s the
responsibility of government to track down the killers, not just because
(the victims) are journalists but because they’re human beings. Government
should protect everyone, not just any class of people.
But they’re
journalists, meaning if (the killers) can do that to journalists – who are
in a position to retaliate because they’re in media – what more the common
people? They cannot be protected.
The mere fact that
some people dare kill journalists is an indication. After journalists,
what next?
They now kill
congressmen, like Henry Lanot. Will they next kill senators?
How about the
killings of activists, particularly the leaders of progressive
organizations, but as well as the supporters of these groups?
Who are responsible?
We don’t know that. Some say it’s the uniformed armed services but we also
don’t know…
During the
roundtable discussion, someone from Karapatan (Alliance for the
Advancement of People’s Rights) said something about this period in our
history being “similar” to the Marcos period. What do you think of that
observation?
You know, in any
society, as long as they have not stifled media, they have not stifled
free speech, there are still antidotes to any violence.
But the moment they
start to suppress those things, the people will rise. There were only 500
NPAs (New People’s Army guerrillas) at the start of martial law, but by
the end there were something like 60,000.
What do you
think must the Macapagal-Arroyo administration do to address the series of
killings?
I cannot answer for
the Macapagal-Arroyo administration. I don’t know what she’s going to do
about these.
Aside from being
the chairman of the Senate Committee on Human Rights, you are also the
vice chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means. Now the Senate version
of the VAT hike bill has just been passed, and it differs from the version
of the House of Representatives.
That can be
reconciled. The main difference is only in the (rate of increase).
(Sen. Ralph) Recto is
stubborn: you can’t dictate to him. He’s angry. Said he: “If (President
Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo) told me (she wanted 12 percent) early on, I would
have followed. I’m in the administration after all. She tells me what she
wants when (the deliberations are) about to end. How would that make me
look?” He’s right there.
Midway he even asked.
An answer was given, but he said, “I want a categorical answer.”
Look at that. (In the
Senate version) the 10-percent VAT is retained, the VAT is imposed on
independent power producers (IPPs), big companies including
telecommunication companies will be hit, the corporate income tax is
increased.
But Gloria wants to
grab as much as she can.
Recto told her:
“Ma’am, out of the P80 billion (we need), we get P15 billion from sin
taxes and P10 billion from the attrition law. So that’s P25 billion. We
have P55 billion left. I’ll deliver the P55 billion.”
But Gloria wants P55
billion fashioned according to her wishes, which is 12 percent VAT. She’s
protecting the big companies. She doesn’t want VAT for the IPPs.
In a few words,
how would you describe Philippine governance after the 2004 election?
As I said earlier,
the record of just one executive department would take one roundtable
discussion. That topic was very hard, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s governance
after the May 2004 elections, which means for one year.
Bulatlat
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